Podcast explores how an executive order stripped collective bargaining rights from thousands of VA employees at Cleveland's Stokes VA Hospital under questionable "national security" claims.

VA Secretary Doug Collins said the decision to end the labor contracts of most of its workers follows an executive order from Donald Trump in March.

The move runs against the Trump administration’s claims to federal jurists that agencies would wait until the conclusion of litigation challenging the president’s executive order seeking to outlaw collective bargaining at most federal agencies on national security grounds.